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logic_user99
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  09:04:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After last night's gig, it is clear that I need to hang up my sticks for a while (or at least play as little as it humanly possible). I've had an on-going problem with my back - possibly stemming from a drumming injury - which means that, when I play, I my shoulder feels 'stabby' and slightly numb and the middle of my back hurts like almighty hell. My body has told me that I need to stop playing and get this sorted once and for all.

Last night was my first 'full kit' gig in about five months and my back is still sore this morning. Even after regular gigging it's not been this bad.

I've tried everything with my kit; moving things up, moving things down, different grips (switching between trad. and matched), playing open handed. Half-way through the gig I actually shifted my entire position up by about 4/5 inches to see if it would make a difference. It did; it just brought on a whole different set of aches and triggered the pain with different movements.

I have the eternal 'carpal tunnel' nightmare as my ring and index finger do, today, feel a little numb; this could just be from my shoulder, however. I'm booking in with the doctor (again) and going to request referral to a physio. I've already spent near-on £300 at an Osteopath and it has really done sweet FA.

Really not excited about this as I've just started to properly fall in love with playing again. However, I'm 29; I don't want my playing career to be over before it's started. I've got three gigs booked in March which I have to play as they are an essential part of my income. Afer that? Who knows.

Thanks for reading. Just needed a bit of a vent.

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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  09:08:18  Show Profile  Visit Captain Bubble's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sad news, I would hate to be in your situation. Hope a rest might bring a speedy cure.

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mully
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  09:28:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

After last night's gig, it is clear that I need to hang up my sticks for a while (or at least play as little as it humanly possible). I've had an on-going problem with my back - possibly stemming from a drumming injury - which means that, when I play, I my shoulder feels 'stabby' and slightly numb and the middle of my back hurts like almighty hell. My body has told me that I need to stop playing and get this sorted once and for all.

Last night was my first 'full kit' gig in about five months and my back is still sore this morning. Even after regular gigging it's not been this bad.

I've tried everything with my kit; moving things up, moving things down, different grips (switching between trad. and matched), playing open handed. Half-way through the gig I actually shifted my entire position up by about 4/5 inches to see if it would make a difference. It did; it just brought on a whole different set of aches and triggered the pain with different movements.

I have the eternal 'carpal tunnel' nightmare as my ring and index finger do, today, feel a little numb; this could just be from my shoulder, however. I'm booking in with the doctor (again) and going to request referral to a physio. I've already spent near-on £300 at an Osteopath and it has really done sweet FA.

Really not excited about this as I've just started to properly fall in love with playing again. However, I'm 29; I don't want my playing career to be over before it's started. I've got three gigs booked in March which I have to play as they are an essential part of my income. Afer that? Who knows.

Thanks for reading. Just needed a bit of a vent.



Logic, bad news, mate, hope it gets sorted. Now...When you say your shoulder, do you mean your actual shoulder - i.e. the shoulder joint itself at the top of your arm - or do you mean "stabby" pain in your upper back near the top of your shoulderblade or indeed anywhere round your shoulderblade? Which side is it on (hi-hat or snare)? I've had a few issues in the past and I got them sorted, but I'd just like to ascertain exactly where your problem lies to see if there's any common ground and to see if I can offer any advice. Oh, and don't panic just yet about having to give up until you speak to a properly qualified sports physio.

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logic_user99
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  09:40:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mully
Logic, bad news, mate, hope it gets sorted. Now...When you say your shoulder, do you mean your actual shoulder - i.e. the shoulder joint itself at the top of your arm - or do you mean "stabby" pain in your upper back near the top of your shoulderblade or indeed anywhere round your shoulderblade? Which side is it on (hi-hat or snare)? I've had a few issues in the past and I got them sorted, but I'd just like to ascertain exactly where your problem lies to see if there's any common ground and to see if I can offer any advice. Oh, and don't panic just yet about having to give up until you speak to a properly qualified sports physio.

Stephen



Thanks, Mully & Marcus.

The pain I get is almost under the inside point of my shoulder blade, near the center of my back, rather than in the actual joint. My bicep and shoulder joint were aching last night, though, which is not a symptom I've experienced before. It's only on my left side. It is at its worst when my arm is slightly too high (eg. when playing left hand on the hats).

There's little to no pain in my wrist when playing trad. grip and minor 'straining' when I'm playing matched. The shoulder/back thing seems to be brought on by playing either.

I'm really hoping I don't have to bin playing altogether; just going to get this mess cleared up once and for all no matter how long it takes.

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averagewaistdude
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  09:46:21  Show Profile  Visit averagewaistdude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Back hex-er-cizes are also recommended my good man. Try to address the asymmetrical inequalities in your lumbar and thoracic (lower and middle back) spine too which may be causing your shoulder pain. (over compensation)

Try this: the "bird dog"
- Kneel on the floor with hands firmly placed about shoulder width apart.
- Brace the abdominals, and at first, practice lifting one hand and the opposite knee just clear of the floor while balancing on the other hand and knee. Half an inch will do until you get the idea of it.
- When you're ready to do the complete exercise, point the arm out straight in front and extend the opposite leg to the rear
- Hold for 5-10 seconds then return to hands and knees on ground position.
- Slowly does it, try 5 each side. Add a few more each week so you can do 3 sets of 10 eventually.

And: Rotator Cuff Exercise "the Blackburn"
- lay face down with your arms above your head - palms down
- slowly, with your arms straight, bring your arms down to your side (like a face-down "snow angel" ) During the descent, rotate your palms to face the ceiling .
- Reverse the action to arms above the head position.
- Slowly is key. Do about 5 - 10.
- Gradually increase over the weeks so you can do 3 sets of 10.

Hopefully that might help you a little.


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mully
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  09:48:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AWD speaks wise words...

Daft question, maybe, Logic - do you do press-ups on a regular basis? Or bench press? There is a reason for me asking this!

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beezerk
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  10:00:20  Show Profile  Visit beezerk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Deez once emailed me some exercises which included some core training, simple stuff, nothing too crazy, I can send it to you if you want.
Also try doing the plank, excellent for strengthening the back and stuff.

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logic_user99
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  10:01:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers, AWD. I'll give those a go!

Mully; No, no bench presses or push-ups. I've a 13kg 2-year-old who still requires some mobility assistance (which is as good as weight lifting some days!)

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martydrums
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  10:17:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear about your problems Logic. If you are having that much pain then your body seems to be trying very hard to tell you something is wrong.

I take it that you recon the physical side of humping your kit to the gig is not "triggering" the problems and it is down to the actual playing? Possibly worth trying to get to a good sports physio to get checked over.


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mully
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  10:40:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I was a lot younger, I developed a "knot" of fibrotic (or scar) tissue in or around my rhomboid muscle on the left hand side (I'm a lefty). This was caused by overdoing it a bit over a considerable period of time on things like bench press and pushups. The knot of scar tissue could easily be felt at the top of my shoulderblade, it was the size of a boiled sweet, and just as bleedin' hard. It caused me great discomfort when playing, esp. on the ride cymbal. A few weeks of deep tissue massage broke up the scar tissue and I've had no real problems in that area since then. As AWD says, though, it could be a rotator cuff issue. Do a quick google, you'll see the four muscles that comprise the rotator cuff. These things can certainly be treated very successfully, but only an expert can properly diagnose the problem, so don't take anything I say (or, with great respect to both AWD and Beez, anything they say either) as being the best way forward. Don't start any exercise or rehab program without being properly diagnosed first, you could exacerbate the problem instead of reducing it. Hie thee to a sports physio for a proper diagnosis and for advice on rehab. And again, DON'T PANIC!!!

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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  11:20:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Logic, don't act too hastily, get decent help, starting at your GP, also is it just the drumming causing it or could it be lifting a wriggling 2 year old, often at arms length isn't helping

I know of more people that have suffered back injuries from lifting children than any industrial work!

Please note, I am not suggesting you don't pick the child up at all!!!!

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mully
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Originally posted by OriginalAnimal

Logic, don't act too hastily, get decent help, starting at your GP,


With great respect, Phil, I don't think a GP is the best person to diagnose soft tissue injuries. A sports physio will see this type of injury every day and is well versed in how to treat it, where a GP has neither the time nor the expertise to really work on such an injury. I could pretty much forecast that the GP will say "Rest and anti-inflammatories", which, in my experience, don't really get to the root of the problem. If our resident GP Dr Docadiddle is about, I'd like to hear what he has to say on this.

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averagewaistdude
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  11:55:46  Show Profile  Visit averagewaistdude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
^^^ This ^^^


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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  12:07:19  Show Profile  Visit moosetication's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Agreed with sports physio recommendation. My bro-in-law (lives near SF) was lucky enough to have his knee problems worked on by one of the San Francisco 49ers physios many years ago, and the difference he made was remarkable.

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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  12:42:46  Show Profile  Visit Cardiacs955i's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Logic,
I've nothing to add to the good advice given, but wanted to say good luck!
Don't rush back to drumming though - get yerself well first & foremost, your plenty young enough to have a little time out.
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  12:55:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mully, Maybe I have exceptional GPs, each at our surgery has their own speciality and will make referrals based on their knowledge and fairly quickly, I was referred to physios within 2 weeks

Though, having in the past paid a shedload out for 'specialist treatment' I have often ended up worse than when I started, with a private practice, if you can get an appointment in under 6 months, the probability of them being useless is dramatically increased, certainly in our area

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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  12:56:03  Show Profile  Visit drummerboy123's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's harsh news logic_user99. I'm sorry I haven't got any useful information to add, but wish you all the best on your recovery. As Cardiacs955i says, take it easy as there's no rush to get back. It'll make it more enjoyable on your return :)

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I would recommend you take a look at Alexander Technique which has been used with success by many musicians to correct posture and get over physical issues arising from the stresses of performance. Playing drums is hard going on the body. I have tried it years ago when playing seemed hard work, and take great care now to keep relaxed and balanced when playing - I am nearly 62 and still playing.
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"The Alexander technique addresses the nuisance habits of actors and musicians. As remedial movement education, it teaches freedom of movement, improving specific self-imposed limitations brought about by unconscious postural habits. It offers a means of aware self-observation and holistic impulse control. The remedial application includes alleviating pain and limitation as a result of poor posture or repetitive physical demands."

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logic_user99
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  13:01:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Again, thanks for the input guys. I've made an appointment with the GP tomorrow morning and am going to see if they can refer me to a sports physio; I just don't have the funds to pay for one myself at the moment. I know that they'll just say rest up and go with the anti-inflams but at least it gets me into the system.

If Dr Docadiddle is around I'd like his feedback too!

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ThinkTank
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  13:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I feel your pain, I sold my kit last week as I'm suffering what sounds like the very same problem!
I had got to the point where I could spend no longer than 5 mins sat at the kit before the incredibly painful stabbing pain would start in my shoulder, all the muscles tense up, and the whole shoulder area becomes rock hard and my movement limited.
It all came to a head a couple weeks ago, after the pain I would normally recover within a couple days rest, but at present I'm still in pain, and on pain killers daily.
It has also now developed into a pain between shoulder blades in the centre of my back similar to that of my shoulder.
I've no idea what's caused it, I don't think it's my poor drumming ability, it probably hasn't helped, but I also spend a lot of time hunched over a desk working.
I'm booked in to see a doctor this week, but this is probably a waste of time as already said, I will see if they can refer me to a physio, can't afford private treatment at the moment, so hopefully the NHS will get me on the road to repair.
Good luck with yours Logic!
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mark.drums
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Having had major spinal surgery myself, I have been told may times by health professionals that the back is a classic area for 'referred pain', that being the extensive network of nerves transmitting the sensation from an injury elsewhere to another location on the back. I would keep on at the doctor for an MRI personally - in order to rule out the things that can be seen on an MRI (I have no idea what, by the way).

I don't like giving advice (unless I am being paid for it, and have prof. indemnity cover) but may I advise you very strongly to NOT self-diagnose by googling your symptoms on-line. Make use of the free, professional service we are very lucky to have in the UK - the NHS...!
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Horrible to hear that, there's an article on the main site about Thomas Lang and his problems with Carpel Tunnel including successful surgery... http://www.mikedolbear.com/story.asp?StoryID=3052

Hope it gets better for you!

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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  15:24:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, Logic. Sorry to read of your plight.

From what you're saying it sounds like you are getting pain in, or very close to, the thoracic spine which hasn't responded to osteopathy?? If so, that definitely warrants an appointment with your GP because it's not a common scenario and needs checking out. Hopefully it will just be a mechanical/postural issue which can be sorted by physio or some other type of physical therapy. Your 'carpal tunnel' might well be just that but it's important to make sure it's not due to spinal nerve root compression in light of the other symptoms.

All the best, hope you're sorted soon. Let us know how you get on.

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quote:
Originally posted by docadiddle

Hi, Logic. Sorry to read of your plight.

that definitely warrants an appointment with your GP


You would say that anyway.....feckin' AMBULANCE-CHASER!!!



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logic_user99
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Posted - 27/02/2012 :  16:47:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by docadiddle

Hi, Logic. Sorry to read of your plight.

that definitely warrants an appointment with your GP


You would say that anyway.....feckin' AMBULANCE-CHASER!!!



Stephen



*snort*

No mincing words there, chief.

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quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by docadiddle

Hi, Logic. Sorry to read of your plight.

that definitely warrants an appointment with your GP


You would say that anyway.....feckin' AMBULANCE-CHASER!!!



Stephen


None taken! Believe me, boys, I'm not touting for business, have got more than enough already!

PS: what lilin says ^^^ is actually a load of old tosh, IMHO. Would tend to ignore that stuff.

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I have no advice, but whatever happens I hope you get it sorted, even if that means laying off the drums for a little while. Take care!

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quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by docadiddle

Hi, Logic. Sorry to read of your plight.

that definitely warrants an appointment with your GP


You would say that anyway.....feckin' AMBULANCE-CHASER!!!



Stephen



*snort*

No mincing words there, chief.





I do hope the good doctor took it as the joke it was meant to be!

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Posted - 28/02/2012 :  09:00:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went to see the Dr. this morning. She tells me that it could be a rotator cuff issue and that physio would be a good course of action (when pressed). She's also told me, with no uncertainty, that I am to take ibuprofen three times a day for two weeks as an anti-inflamatory. No drumming with the exception of essential work, and even then I'm to take decent pain-killers before I play.

Just filling in my self-referral form for the NHS physio now and will see where that leads me.

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Posted - 28/02/2012 :  09:06:42  Show Profile  Visit averagewaistdude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Logic - glad to see my diagnosis was partially correct *wink*

Hope you get a physio referral soon - they are invaluable members of our community! Keep taking the tablets as the doctor sez, may be some gentle exercise or swimming to keep things moving along...?


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quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by docadiddle

Hi, Logic. Sorry to read of your plight.

that definitely warrants an appointment with your GP


You would say that anyway.....feckin' AMBULANCE-CHASER!!!



Stephen



*snort*

No mincing words there, chief.





I do hope the good doctor took it as the joke it was meant to be!

Stephen


Of course!

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Perhaps the muscle work-out and the posture you assume at the drum set is in stark contrast to that of your normal day activities. What about your lounging and sleeping position, these too could be a factor. Temperature in the venue could also be an problem

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Hi Logic

Sorry to hear about your problems. Having been there in the past I know how frustrating and upsetting these things can be.

If you haven't done it already, check out http://www.bapam.org.uk/

Bapam are a charity offering specialist diagnosis and treatment for performers. I called them when I was having some problems, and they sorted me out with an appointment to see a consultant that week at a specialist clinic. I was very lucky, and he showed me some exercises that sorted my problem within a few weeks. Had I needed more treatment I would have had access to it straight away - awesome!

When you call Bapam they will ask you about your problems so that you go straight to see someone with specialist experience relevant to your issues - no being sent from this person to that person etc etc

You might need to be a Musician's Union member to access their services - its well worth joining just for this and the PL insurance.

Hope this helps, and best wishes for a speedy recovery. Keep your chin up!
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logic_user99
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Thanks, Matt. I'll check the link out and see if it can work for me.

Dez; drum is a pretty stark contrast, yes. Something I hadn't honestly considered...

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Morning, Dolberians! An update. The physiotherapy service has come back to me and have me booked in for NEXT WEDNESDAY MORNING! I am really very pleased about this; I thought I'd be waiting months.

That's all, really.

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Posted - 09/03/2012 :  10:35:57  Show Profile  Visit SoulResistance's Homepage  Reply with Quote
good stuff, hope you get it sorted asap mate and hopefully get back behind the kit where you belong

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Mate I'd try acupuncture - I had a very bad rotator cuff injury playing cricket (opening bowler) plain old physio was a waste of time but two sessions of acupuncture and it was like new - never had a problem ever again

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Nice one mate hope you get sorted

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Morning, Dolberians! An update. The physiotherapy service has come back to me and have me booked in for NEXT WEDNESDAY MORNING! I am really very pleased about this; I thought I'd be waiting months.

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Wow that is fast! Hope it all works out well for you.


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Posted - 13/03/2012 :  11:15:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Mate I'd try acupuncture - I had a very bad rotator cuff injury playing cricket (opening bowler) plain old physio was a waste of time but two sessions of acupuncture and it was like new - never had a problem ever again



Funnily enough, the frontman of the Blues trio in which I play is a trained acupuncturist. He said he'll take a look once I've been to the physio...

I'll let you know how I get on tomorrow!

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I would definitely suggest Alexander Technique.Many of our aches and pains are actually self inflicted by poor posture or over use of muscles etc or even using the wrong muscles. It's not a cheap fix but may be the solution and long lasting.There are at least 2 AT bodies in the UK STAT and ITM. check them out. Good luck.
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Positive news from the Physiotherapist. In brief, my shoulder blades are in the wrong place due to muscle wastage in the middle of my back; I am literally not supporting my own weight! He's given me three exercises to strengthen the middle of my back, the area between my shoulders, and also to try and train my shoulder blades into the correct position.

It's going to take a few weeks to even get on to the right path, but it is going to be so very worth it.

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Posted - 14/03/2012 :  11:33:39  Show Profile  Visit beezerk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What were the exercises mate?

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What were the exercises mate?



One was on all-fours, pushing my ribcage down. Another was lying face down, propped on elbows to push my ribcage forward and strengthen my back. The last one was against a wall to realign my shoulder blades, or at least pull them back into position to help with the other two things.

I hadn't noticed how clumsy my hands had gotten until today, either... Very 'clubbish' today.

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Posted - 14/03/2012 :  13:42:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad you got good news from the physio Logic.


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quote:
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What were the exercises mate?



One was on all-fours, pushing my ribcage down.


Yes, I've tried that one on TGLM.

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One was on all-fours, pushing my ribcage down.


Yes, I've tried that one on TGLM.

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Hope you're back up and drumming with a full recovery, 29 is young to be hanging up the sticks but your health is the most important.

Only niggles I've had we're cleared up by the phisio but I've also tried some Alexander techniques and they certainly stopped me needing more crunching.
(the uni had a BRUTAL sports physio who was a very effective sadist)

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