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Mcmaul
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Posted - 10/03/2012 :  10:49:40  Show Profile  Visit Mcmaul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Making a 10" mahog duro tom, and cannat find any online or otherwise. Anyone help?? Got to be prem to match the rest of the set.

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Prog
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Posted - 10/03/2012 :  11:00:46  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Premier still make then. They're six lug and the part number is 0760.

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Bazarre
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Posted - 10/03/2012 :  14:06:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been trying to find a pair for two years, Dug. And yes, Chris, Prem do make them, but have you seen the price?!

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Prog
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Posted - 10/03/2012 :  14:28:23  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, but two years of searching would suggest that it may be the only option.

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Resonator72
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Posted - 10/03/2012 :  20:07:02  Show Profile  Visit Resonator72's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i may know the whereabouts of some... leave it in my capable sniffing hands

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Mcmaul
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Posted - 10/03/2012 :  20:30:34  Show Profile  Visit Mcmaul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great stuff, Nick, Lad, you have been well trained, my young apprentice..how much are the modern ones??

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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 10/03/2012 :  22:54:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Problems with the new ones - possibly apart from the price - is that they look differently, much taller (which for me is a big problem especially on a small tom) and more angular - and have 6 holes.

In fact, I think you could just as well use any other diecast hoop.

Smart ting with Gretsch is that they come with 5 holes and are good.

NOT cheap, though.

Then again - I got so obsessed with finding a pair, I ended up buying some in the US - cost me around 100£ in all, with shipping, taxes and fees. The next week I bought a 10" Resonator in the UK in top condition for 40£....

A 10" Resonator might be the easiest way to get one.


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Prog
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Posted - 11/03/2012 :  08:15:51  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I thought they were the same as the old hoops.

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Bazarre
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Posted - 11/03/2012 :  10:59:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Prog

I thought they were the same as the old hoops.



That's what I was told -- same castings as the old ones.

And I made my 10" Prem tom as a six lug one, so need 10 x 6 lug cast hoops.

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steveh
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Posted - 11/03/2012 :  23:34:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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FenTiger
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Posted - 11/03/2012 :  23:39:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steveh

whistle whistle whistle
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Are they not pre-international Steve?
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Spart
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Posted - 11/03/2012 :  23:53:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a regular one:

http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx164/dirtyboppa/Vintage%20Premier%20Grey%20Shimmer/?action=view¤t=bc522705.jpg#!oZZ22QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs752.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx164%2Fdirtyboppa%2FVintage%2520Premier%2520Grey%2520Shimmer%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dbc522705.jpg

5 lug, standard 10".

Spart

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steveh
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Posted - 12/03/2012 :  04:59:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dunno, but my sketchy info has told me that 10" were only available for a very short period in 60's as a 5 x hole pre-int??
They cut them out of range about 64/65' I think so mine and Sparts look like pre-ints, to me??
Been wrong many times !!
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 12/03/2012 :  09:09:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 10" Resonator has 5 holes and is International, like the 2 I bought from the US:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-BB32_4CA702A7.jpg

This is the Gretsch, I mentioned - quite different, but at least with 5 holes. Made in China, too. By Gibraltar/Dixon, I understand.

The "Modern" Premiers I have seen, are not the latest offerings from the Premier Series Elite, and I must admit they look a lot like the old ones.



Jon






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Carlton
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Posted - 12/03/2012 :  09:41:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sold a pair on ebay last year for £20......wish I'd known you wanted some
Think that they went over the water to Ireland

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Mcmaul
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Posted - 17/03/2012 :  14:22:47  Show Profile  Visit Mcmaul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gutted man!!

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steveh
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Posted - 18/03/2012 :  20:35:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeeeep ! WRONG, me.
Just got awf my fatt ar@e and actually measured the hoop on my drum and its 10" exactly. So WRONG again, they are "International 10" standard sizing.ie C1960's even. ello'.
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Mcmaul
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Posted - 16/04/2012 :  11:25:26  Show Profile  Visit Mcmaul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How much are these to order new from premier?? Looks like my only option right now.

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Spart
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Posted - 16/04/2012 :  11:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good Morning,
I believe Baskey quoted me something like seventy quid the pair a couple of years ago Mr McM.

Spart

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Bazarre
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Posted - 16/04/2012 :  15:38:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mcmaul

How much are these to order new from premier?? Looks like my only option right now.



I seem to remember they quoted me £60 each, Dug.

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Mcmaul
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Posted - 18/04/2012 :  22:20:16  Show Profile  Visit Mcmaul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
E-mither sent to baskey vintage..

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morphico
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Posted - 19/04/2012 :  14:01:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Theres one on the bay at the minute, 5 lugger

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PREMIER-Vintage-DIE-CAST-10-tom-rim-hoop-5-Lug-/230775831160?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Drums_Percussions_MJ&hash=item35bb4fba78

Though I imagine everyones seen it already.


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mcghee
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Posted - 21/08/2012 :  11:27:23  Show Profile  Visit mcghee's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That was me selling that on the bay! I have one on at the moment as well. funny enough these 2 were on a 70's gretsch 10" tom, I hunted one gretsch hoop off the bay and I've just ordered one from wembley drum centre, so I have this one spare if anyone is looking for one.

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