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nickh
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04/04/2012 : 16:33:56
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I've just got myself the above mentioned gadget and wondered if any of you peeps had been using one and could give me a few tips on the settings etc. I'm talking about the various mic settings and bit rate and wav vs. mp3.
I'll be mostly using it for recording full band rehearsals in a studio, 3 piece band , bluesy rock stuff and played at sensible volumes.
Any tips that would save me a bit of time and get me on the right track would be much appreciated.
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scaryhair
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 16:48:34
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I'll be following this thread, I have a zoom h2 and have got some ok recordings from it, but nothing spectacular because I am useless with this type of gadget.
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WendyB
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 17:23:37
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You need to set it up in the middle of the room if you face each other with speakers/amps around the room, or where the audience would be if you all face the same way as if on stage. If you use all four mics, you get about half an hour's recording on a 2Gb disk, but if you set it to 2 mics you will get much more but a lower quality. A bigger disk is advisable. Attaching the Zoom to a mic stand will reduce vibration noise. You will need to try it a few times to get the people in the band to play at the right level for recording, so that no one instrument overpowers another, but once you have it set, the recordings are pretty good. You can listen to the recordings immediately using the mini jack out either through a mixer or via headphones.
I tend to use mine to monitor my own performance rather than looking to create a CD, but you could do that with the right software. I'm sure somebody will recommend something. |
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andywilson
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 19:47:04
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| I've got the H2 and can only speak well of it. The H2n adds new featrues which I want but cannot afford as yet. Set your internal mike recording switch levels to medium and your sensivity to 75. If after you find them to be low in volume you can adjust them via a programme like Audacity on your computer. Hope this helps. |
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Steevo114
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/04/2012 : 18:54:37
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Ok I've also just bought an H2n for recording rehearsals and performances, and I want to try the Monitoring function as well. I'm too tight to cough up another £29 or so for the accessories pack (most of which I don't need) but I'd like to know if I can use my Apple mains to usb charger to run it from the mains. Has anyone tried it? the Apple output looks like 5v 1A which seems high (amp wise)the old H2 chargers seem to be 9v. I do use it to run a Philips MP3 player with no probs.
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Steevo114
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/04/2012 : 02:01:24
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Ok I usd the Zoom H2n to record songs at a gig this evening, and tried monitoring through it with some enclosed ear 'phones.
Firstly, the plat/forward/back button is VERY fiddly, I kept skipping tracks in playback when I wanted to FF them etc. Probably get used to it though.
Can anyone suggest good starting point for gain/ mic selection/ rec quality for best easy results?
I actually had it behind me on a shelf, and amazingly I got some fairly well balanced recordings in MS XY and 4CH settings which was a surprise as I thought there'd be too much drums.
Monitoring sounded boxy with the vol pushed up to full on the output side though. I was getting a lot of bleed but maybe the phones weren't good enough as far as isolation goes.
I have to say what I got could be clearer, - next time I'll up the recording quality to the max and see what happens.
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Badman_batman
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/04/2012 : 11:02:43
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I really have to commend zoom on there recorders, I went for the h4n and it's absolutely brilliant even when using the auto adjust but I do find the functions difficult to use but a few you tube videos later it was sorted. You could try to mic the drums through a mixer and use the input on the h2n to just record so it does not have to use any of the mics and auto adjust functions
I believe the h2n is much easier to use and kind of regret not going for that one to be honest |
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gryphon
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USA
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Posted - 29/04/2012 : 23:52:51
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I've had an H2 for about 4 years now and have made a couple hundred hours of recordings with it. I have recorded very good demo records for several bands using the H2 and Audacity.
Andy Wilson is spot on with his recommendations for recording settings. When in doubt go a little lower on the mid volume range. I would recommend getting the largest capacity disk your recorder can take. Set the level, put it on record and forget it until the end of the gig or session. I don't mess with it until I'm home after the gig. It's too much of a hassle and a distraction to deal with during a gig when you should be concentrating on the music. The Normalize function in Audacity works very well with my Zoom recordings to bring the volume to optimum levels.
I put mine on an old mini camera tripod. When I record in my home for demos, I don't worry about orientation of the band around the unit and how the stereo effect is staged. It's more important to have a well balanced mix, and that mostly depends on the players. One thing I do try do do is get a speaker for the vocals closer to the H2 than any of the instruments to get the vocals more out into the foreground of the mix.
At gigs it's important to position the H2 as far as possible from the crowd. The mic's are very sensitive and will pick up every word and extraneous noise. I have a live recording from a bar where when I listen with headphones I'm constantly dodging the beer bottles the bartender is tossing in the bin while the band is playing. The sound quality is that good.
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