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thebeaver
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Posted - 11/06/2012 :  13:57:55  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Has been shipped out today! I know there are mixed feeling out there about it, but I've always felt unsure and that I could be getting more from my drums with the right tuning. There's been some great reviews already but I'll definitely be putting up some feedback over the next few days.

Not gonna lie, I'm so excited I could siht a well tuned floor tom!

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Rudi
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Posted - 11/06/2012 :  19:13:42  Show Profile  Visit Rudi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It'll be great to read your feedback and find out what your experience of it is!

For me it's been a great tool. It has given me the chance to tune my drums in an accurate and objective way. It has also helped me to understand how tuning heads affects the sound and response of a drum. It has made me feel free to experiment with different intervals and tunings. Finally it has given the ability to repeat tunings precisely.

Have fun!

Rudi

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thebeaver
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  14:32:09  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Still having a play around with it atm, but one quick question, Rudi (or anyone else who has one). Does your display read the decimal point hz eg. 222.1? All the videos I have seen of it do, but mine doesnt for some reason. Just wondering if those were testers and its something they took out or there's somethin up with this one?!

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Yard
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  14:45:48  Show Profile  Visit Yard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anything that helps can only be good but use it to perfect your tuning by ear.

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Geoff_fry01
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  15:27:46  Show Profile  Visit Geoff_fry01's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have one of these... Really glad I bought it.
It didn't work like I thought (like a guitar tuner) you really have to read the instructions, make sure you strike the drum exactly the same and hit the same distance from the edge.. also it only really works for me when you mute the opposite head and mute or move away from other drums...

But.. it really shocked me how the tiniest turn of a rod can affect the others... I can def tune better now without the device and can tune more consistently..
It's also Very useful in the studio when doing multiple takes or drop ins later on tracks.. I.e the drop of pitch over time playing can be "hidden" by re tuning to the same number..

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thebeaver
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  15:34:09  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok so I just got done tuning my 402 to one of the reccomended settings getting each lug perfect. And oh. my. siht. That drum has NEVER sounded so good. It's HUGE! At first I thought it had given the drum too much ring, but the second I started playing that ring dissapeared into a fuller, fatter and clearer sound. Biggest thing I noticed is that the ghost notes and accents seem to have a much better definition between them.

Anyway, first impression very good, can't wait to try on toms! You're dead right of cours yard. I will use this to hopefully train my ears into how to get a good sound and will hopefully one day not need it!

Geoff, does yours have the decimal place like I mentioned above?

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Geoff_fry01
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  15:50:47  Show Profile  Visit Geoff_fry01's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't think mine had decimal place... Will check but I think it would be impossible to to get all lugs that accurate. G

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thebeaver
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  15:55:46  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geoff_fry01

I don't think mine had decimal place... Will check but I think it would be impossible to to get all lugs that accurate. G



Check out the online manual and review. They both have the decimal! I think they probably got rid of it as you dont need to be that accurate - but there's still an unilluminated space for the decimal on mine:

Manual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b-gGk4N6p68

Review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt1EKjrMZzM&feature=related

Both got a decimal!

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Pegdrummer
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  16:22:16  Show Profile  Visit Pegdrummer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Beaver - out of interest, how much did you get it for? And where from? The website lists Absolute Music as a stockist - but can't find anything on their website!

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Andy P
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  16:39:51  Show Profile  Visit Andy P's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How much are these gizmos, where they from and are they really any different to a Drum Dial?

I use the Drum Dial to get the drum somewhere near, then use me lug'oles to get it more precise (if that makes sense).

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DeadSet
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  16:48:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AM have them on their eBay store: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tune-Bot-Electronic-Drum-Tuner-NEW-/251082929601?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Drums_Percussions_MJ&hash=item3a75b575c1

£102 a pop though, so I guess I'll give it miss...
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thebeaver
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  16:51:07  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pegdrummer

Beaver - out of interest, how much did you get it for? And where from? The website lists Absolute Music as a stockist - but can't find anything on their website!



£99 my good man - http://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/store/drums-20/drum-accessories-204/general-drum-accessories-2045/tune-bot-electronic-drum-tuner-47359 (it's amazing how many people neglegt the "search" bar on shops websites )

Looking like a worth while investment so far, just to give me confidence and understanding in an area I've struggled with. Andy check the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt1EKjrMZzM&feature=related he explains it all very clearly.

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New Boy
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Posted - 16/06/2012 :  08:46:29  Show Profile  Visit New Boy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's a bit on the expensive side is , I bought one of the drum tunas a few years ago and have had varying degrees of success. Handy for replacing heads and getting a similar tension but with fine tuning it wouldn't move even though you could hear through altering.


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Rudi
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Posted - 16/06/2012 :  08:58:33  Show Profile  Visit Rudi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thebeaver

Does your display read the decimal point hz eg. 222.1? All the videos I have seen of it do, but mine doesnt for some reason. Just wondering if those were testers and its something they took out or there's somethin up with this one?!



Yes, apparently they reviewed the firmware after the first shipment and changed the decimal display to only show .0 or 0.5. It was probably a bit of an overkill to go down to tenths of a Hz when tuning drums :)

Like yourself, I found that the tune-bot as well as helping me tuning my drums has also deepened my understanding of the whole process of tuning.

I too have found that my drums 'sing', but blend beautifully together. On the website there is a series of charts to let you choose how much resonance you want to achieve, from max down to low.

Good stuff.

Rudi

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thebeaver
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Posted - 16/06/2012 :  11:35:04  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rudi

Yes, apparently they reviewed the firmware after the first shipment and changed the decimal display to only show .0 or 0.5.




Mine doesnt show anything at all. I mean it has no decimal place. Not like I'm thinking I'm missing out or anything - but I just want assurance there's not an issue with mine or anything...

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Gapwedge
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Posted - 16/06/2012 :  11:40:03  Show Profile  Visit Gapwedge's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mine doesn't show the decimal place. I reckon that they ditched it on the production models as tuning to a fraction of a hz was taking fine tuning too far

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Rudi
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Posted - 16/06/2012 :  13:37:24  Show Profile  Visit Rudi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys, a clarification: the 0.0 / 0.5 decimal display only appears in "difference" mode. When using the default, the display only shows whole Hz without any decimal places. :)

Rudi

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Pegdrummer
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Posted - 16/06/2012 :  23:00:14  Show Profile  Visit Pegdrummer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thebeaver

quote:
Originally posted by Pegdrummer

Beaver - out of interest, how much did you get it for? And where from? The website lists Absolute Music as a stockist - but can't find anything on their website!



£99 my good man - http://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/store/drums-20/drum-accessories-204/general-drum-accessories-2045/tune-bot-electronic-drum-tuner-47359 (it's amazing how many people neglegt the "search" bar on shops websites )

Looking like a worth while investment so far, just to give me confidence and understanding in an area I've struggled with. Andy check the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt1EKjrMZzM&feature=related he explains it all very clearly.



I did search, but didn't put the "-" in, the search didn't show up anything when searching for "tune" and "bot.... and I wasn't going to sift through all 15 pages of General accessories because they haven't put them into smaller categories.

http://www.gregwalkerdrums.co.uk
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thebeaver
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Posted - 17/06/2012 :  02:42:45  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just searched for "tune bot". Two words, no hyphen.... and its the first result that comes up!

http://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/store/?searchStr=tune+bot&_a=viewCat

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thebeaver
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Posted - 17/06/2012 :  02:44:27  Show Profile  Visit thebeaver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And cheers for the rouge decimal help guys!

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Tex
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Posted - 17/06/2012 :  04:36:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheaper at Thomanns.

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Jeffskowski
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Yup. £85 delivered from the Germans.
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