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bikerjohn
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  13:03:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi folks,

I remember in the early-mid 80's there were some drum heads around, yellowish in color with a raised criss-cross pattern. they were an almost solid plastic, must have been pre-tension-ed cos I don't think you could tune them. ....Any ideas what they were called or where they may be got?

Ta

Prog
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  13:06:28  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forum.

Pre-tensioned sounds like Remo PTS but the rest of your description doesn't match.

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Prog
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  13:10:58  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Remo Falam Neutral marching heads perhaps? Not pre-tuned though.

http://www.gak.co.uk/rs/pictures/tn1_26534.jpg

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hat trick
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  13:23:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe a remo fiberskyn?

http://remo.com/portal/products/6/52/ds_fiberskyn_3.html
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rytenuff
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  15:00:23  Show Profile  Visit rytenuff's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sounds like Kevlar.

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AndyC
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  15:21:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yup Kevlar.

As demonstration at a drum clinic once, they put one on a snare, tuned it, Drilled a hole with a Black and decker, and it barely affected the sound at all.

Bleedin' useless with Brushes though!

Plastic brushes came out at around this time, people said that the two things were related. New type of head needed that type of brush, and many people though that soon all heads would be made like that.

Andy


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Bob Henrit
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  16:16:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bear Percussion made the heads but I'm not certain Peter de Bear is still doing them. I had a quick look around the web and he's listed on various sites but they don't appear to join to him. The biggest problem with the heads is/was they last a very long time (even with holes in them) which is a great marketing ploy but not exactly grounds for getting rich quick from repeat sales. He's a great guy though and really good company with fabulous stories about the cinematic side of his life! The alternatives to Bear drumheads were/are Canasonic and Duraline.

R.J.Henrit
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gdrumfoot
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Posted - 17/08/2012 :  16:52:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have some unused Bear heads somewhere, bought 'em at a clinic/show for use on a kit for teaching, never got around to fitting them. Not sure what sizes but faily certain no bass head.

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bikerjohn
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Posted - 18/08/2012 :  10:20:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys, the Kevlar idea seems most likely. now all I've got to do is find some!!

J.G.
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bikerjohn
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Posted - 18/08/2012 :  10:23:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
12", 13", 14"x2 and 16"

J.G.
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 19/08/2012 :  08:41:41  Show Profile  Visit Captain Bubble's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Premier made or sold a kevlar marching head and I bought one out of interest for my kit snare drum. Very dry, not really my cup of aramid fibre.

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lee haydn
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Posted - 19/08/2012 :  10:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I vaguely remember a head like that, why do you want a set of those in particular?

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AndyC
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Posted - 19/08/2012 :  13:04:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The other thing about those heads, (and Canasonic rings a bell as the brand I saw,) was that they were a woven fabric. If you held them up to your mouth you could breath through them.

andy

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lee haydn
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Posted - 19/08/2012 :  14:27:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Those are not how i remember the one/ones i saw Andy, in fact, thinking about it, it just may have been on a marching snare drum, it was definitely a "creamy" sort of colour and the surface was tiny squares in texture,,

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davidh
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Posted - 19/08/2012 :  15:12:04  Show Profile  Visit davidh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Andante http://andantedrums.co.uk/ pipe band drums do a CoreTec woven head and Remo CyberMax is similar but these are cranked down to serious tension (20 hex bolts on the top head).
We were playing them last week at the Olympic Closing ceremony - if you were very very sharp-eyed you might have seen about 2 or 3 seconds and fleetingly heard a pipe band at the end of Eric Idle's slot. We had six side drummers playing Andantes using CoreTec heads.

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bikerjohn
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Posted - 19/08/2012 :  19:54:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm! They didn't seem like woven fabric at all, like I say, almost solid plastic with a very pronounced, deep square pattern, not at all smooth. Extremely bright and quite loud. That's why I want em really, Bright and Loud. Twas like hitting a semi-solid head.



J.G.
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mcghee
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Posted - 28/08/2012 :  22:49:24  Show Profile  Visit mcghee's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think Prog was right with Remo Falam Neutral marching heads.

These are on the bay at the moment

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/14-Bear-Stadium-unbreakable-Drum-Heads-WHITE-Made-in-the-USA-NEW-/130736654264?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Drums_Percussions_MJ&hash=item1e708307b8

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