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richard
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05/02/2010 : 23:10:12
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So i'm 'following' Zildjian on the Twitter social networking site.
& I just spotted this...!
"http://twitpic.com/11jz79 - Guess 'Who' these cymbals are for...hint: watch the Super Bowl on Sunday!"
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Sam The Drummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/02/2010 : 23:11:36
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| I like them, pretty funky! |
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MarkJRichardson
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whitford0
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United Kingdom
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Jimboo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 01:51:11
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they looks like captain americas's sheild  |
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Yard
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Captain Bubble
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 09:14:56
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Originally posted by Jimboo
they looks like captain americas's sheild
Er, don't you mean Captain America's Shield looks like an RAF roundel? A design classic dating back to about 1916 or 1917.
The colouring probably affects the sound a bit, but he is a great player and the audience will not notice. |
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Yard
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Afghanistan
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 09:28:02
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Originally posted by Captain Bubble
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Originally posted by Jimboo
they looks like captain americas's sheild
Er, don't you mean Captain America's Shield looks like an RAF roundel? A design classic dating back to about 1916 or 1917.
The colouring probably affects the sound a bit, but he is a great player and the audience will not notice.
My son Martin is Zak's tech after stealing the gig from me by using subversive underhand means of having good hearing,good tuning skills and being younger!!
It is a Stadium gig so sound quality will not be that great anyway. |
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Captain Bubble
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leokent
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United Kingdom
218 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2010 : 13:09:06
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| I wonder if zildjian is moving towards creating all colour cymbals. It certainly seems that way! |
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drumting
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 16:17:12
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Originally posted by Captain Bubble
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Originally posted by Jimboo
they looks like captain americas's sheild
Er, don't you mean Captain America's Shield looks like an RAF roundel? A design classic dating back to about 1916 or 1917.
The colouring probably affects the sound a bit, but he is a great player and the audience will not notice.
The roundel is a great factor in Pop Art. Peter Blake was inspired by Jasper Johnson's "First Real Target". The mods got hold of it, and here we are in 2010 with the largest cymbal manufacturer in the world using the icon on their cymbals. Good stuff . |
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Captain Bubble
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aikendrum
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 16:55:02
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| They look biz... sorry.. |
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gaz farrimond
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mattsdrums
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United Kingdom
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leokent
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 22:20:49
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Originally posted by gaz farrimond
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Originally posted by leokent
I wonder if zildjian is moving towards creating all colour cymbals. It certainly seems that way!
They already make them with the Pitch Black series.
http://www.zildjian.com/en-US/products/default.ad2?catalogID=1061
Yes this is just more evidence of their interest in this area. Although I have not heard anything good about the pitch black series, similarly neither have I heard good things about the Paiste black alpha. I guess it doesnt help that both series are sheet bronze. |
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bERb
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 22:59:39
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IMHO Pointless !!   |
The Geordie contingency. I feel sorry for people who don't drink because when they get up in the morning that's as good as they're gonna feel all day!. dw, yammy x2 ,TD8, sabian,zildjian,paiste, protection racket.stella artois, red wine, gin & tonic (lots). |
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Yard
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 10:06:21
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Its not going to be a new range as they were made solely for the Superbowl gig.
Zak is very fastidious about his sounds...if it don't cut it, then it don't go on the stand.
His collection is hand picked. |
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monkeythedrummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 11:23:47
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| Look fun, although not sure how that paint would sound. However, it's the superbowl, people would be happy with a sparkly bouncing ball at half term.... |
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richard
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United Kingdom
265 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2010 : 12:14:34
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I think they're great (Just like Tony Tiger).
I'd imagine the paint would have a slight impact on the sound, though i guess it doesn't really matter for a very short live stadium show.
They're going to get people talking for sure.
Wouldn't be surprised if you see them auctioned off for Haiti soon afterwards... |
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jamesminion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 14:44:45
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| They look really cheaply done, like the pitch black range. I don't understand how paiste can make the colour sound coating look flawless, but the zildjian ones look like they've been painted by kids |
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leokent
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 15:04:06
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 23:12:28
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| Well, the Super Bowl has just started on BBC1 and The Who are on at half time. |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 23:23:19
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Originally posted by jamesminion
They look really cheaply done....
Watching the opening ceremony, it seems that anything remotely tasteful would look out of place.
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PJRose
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drumting
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 09:23:14
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Originally posted by Captain Bubble
Mind you, it is a bit questionable to put a target on your own aircraft!
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DoglegSniff
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 09:48:45
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| Was it just me or was the sound p1sh? Very little of the drums coming through and cymbals barely audible ...or was that the impact of the paint!? |
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 09:54:34
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| ^ The sound will be much more down to the mix, and then the massive compression they use for TV. Yard has already said that Zak is very fastidious with his sound, it is not his fault that sound engineers and especially TV "standard practice" messes up the sound. |
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leokent
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 09:58:20
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After watching it last night I thought it was an awesome show. Way to let the americans make a sport seem so epic!
I thought the kit looked amazing but yeh the sound wasn't brilliant but I'm sure acoustically they sounded great. |
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althedrummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 11:26:35
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Originally posted by DoglegSniff
Was it just me or was the sound p1sh? Very little of the drums coming through and cymbals barely audible ...or was that the impact of the paint!?
This any better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEDmZPx-FMg |
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moosetication
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United Kingdom
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drumting
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 12:27:44
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Originally posted by leokent
After watching it last night I thought it was an awesome show. Way to let the americans make a sport seem so epic!
I thought the kit looked amazing but yeh the sound wasn't brilliant but I'm sure acoustically they sounded great.
Just watched it on YouTube, Zak looked to be on top form.
I also thought the cymbals sounded pretty damn good. Maybe my hearing is worse than I thought . |
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GaryR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 12:37:47
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I stayed up late to watch the "Ooo" at half time too.I thought the show was just incredible.Ok the sound could have been better I know,I could,nt hear Zak either.The kit looked the bizz and the new design cymbals did add a touch of nostalgia to the show.
I thought Daltrey sang a lot better than I have heard him in recent times.Was that Van Morrison on lead guitar?
I always thought that the lighting on Pink Floyds "Pulse" dvd was the dogs bohollix,but,the lighting at this Who show was second to none. sheer brilliance..!!
Thanks for posting the link to the whole show Althedrummer. |
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Yard
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Afghanistan
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 10:28:42
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Originally posted by Captain Bubble
^ The sound will be much more down to the mix, and then the massive compression they use for TV. Yard has already said that Zak is very fastidious with his sound, it is not his fault that sound engineers and especially TV "standard practice" messes up the sound.
Correct,once Paul Ramsay The Who FOH sends a feed to the TV truck its all over as their people take over the mix!!
To give Zak credit he always demands the utmost attention to detail which keeps you on your toes...he plays great blues guitar too. |
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moosetication
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beezerk
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 11:35:07
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Originally posted by moosetication
I've watched the half-time footage three times now. The only two people playing live as far as I could see were Townshend and Daltry.
Kinell it wasn't just me who though that then, even the missus commented on it.
Townshend was miles out on the guitar intro to Won't Get Fooled Again so I think he may haave been faking it as well.
Did you see Zak hit the drums at the very end and no sound came out |
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moosetication
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 12:42:41
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Originally posted by beezerk
[Townshend was miles out on the guitar intro to Won't Get Fooled Again so I think he may haave been faking it as well.
He was playing over the top of a pre-recorded backing. |
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Yard
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 14:15:41
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Originally posted by moosetication
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Originally posted by beezerk
[Townshend was miles out on the guitar intro to Won't Get Fooled Again so I think he may haave been faking it as well.
He was playing over the top of a pre-recorded backing.
Pete WAS playing live! |
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moosetication
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 14:37:17
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Originally posted by Yard
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Originally posted by moosetication
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Originally posted by beezerk
[Townshend was miles out on the guitar intro to Won't Get Fooled Again so I think he may haave been faking it as well.
He was playing over the top of a pre-recorded backing.
Pete WAS playing live!
That's what I said. He was playing over a backing. Not miming.
I'm not actually being critical. The use of backings is quite understandable in this situation. They have about fourteen seconds to erect a tour-quality stage rig (and that visual aspect was absolutely stunning), and a fixed time slot in an already-lengthened half-time interval - doing a couple of day's work in no time flat. The probability of something getting futzed is very high - and it just can't go wrong. There's no time to swap out a guitar wireless receiver, or check the cabling to the bass drum mic, or whatever. and the crowd didn't pay a bazillion dollars to see The Who play, they paid to watch the most important football game of the year. So playing over backings as an insurance policy is quite understandable.
Additionally, CBS and NFL are still gun-shy after Nipplegate and equally want an insurance policy against something untoward happening. Being able to switch to a backing (recorded at rehearsal a few days earlier) in the event of another slip-up gives them that. |
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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 15:08:18
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I have to agree with Moose, what Zak was doing, bore little resemblance to what we heard and I would think that a pre recorded track wwas in use.
Pinball Wizard was really lacking in any quality which spoilt it for me, and Daltrey seems to be struggling more each time I hear him
Such a shame |
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moosetication
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MickTheLamb
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 17:05:49
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Yep - it was clear that they weren't playing live in the full sense of the word. Could barely hear the drums and cymbals. I thought the show itself visually was amazing although it was so big The Who seemed VERY far away. (These Daltreys are small. The one out here is faaaaaaaaaaaar away).
Whoever told Townshend he can sing is on glue. |
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beezerk
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Muttzknuttz1
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Posted - 09/02/2010 : 17:39:11
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Was that Van Morrison on lead guitar
and was Robin Askwith from the confessions films on drums? |
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Yard
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Posted - 10/02/2010 : 09:38:44
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Originally posted by beezerk
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Originally posted by MickTheLamb
Whoever told Townshend he can sing is on glue.
Chortle
Quote of the week.
Beyond doubt Pete is an absolute genius.Still a teenager when he wrote the classics before he had Tommy & Quadrophenia to contend with.
I have never met anyone who can compete with his fascinating, sharp mind.
But he does play great flamencage on that guitar!! |
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chrisgriff
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 22:30:45
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| I know someone who has managed to somehow get his hands on a couple of Zildjians that used to belong to Zak. They have his name laser etched under the Zildjian badge - lloks like they've been custom made. I can vouch for him having good taste in cymbals! |
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Yard
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 19:09:09
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Originally posted by chrisgriff
I know someone who has managed to somehow get his hands on a couple of Zildjians that used to belong to Zak. They have his name laser etched under the Zildjian badge - lloks like they've been custom made. I can vouch for him having good taste in cymbals!
Call the police..we have him!
Yes, his name is etched on them as they are custom made to his spec. |
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MickTheLamb
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 22:18:08
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Originally posted by Yard
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Originally posted by beezerk
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Originally posted by MickTheLamb
Whoever told Townshend he can sing is on glue.
Chortle
Quote of the week.
Beyond doubt Pete is an absolute genius.Still a teenager when he wrote the classics before he had Tommy & Quadrophenia to contend with.
I have never met anyone who can compete with his fascinating, sharp mind.
But he does play great flamencage on that guitar!!
Oh yes, brilliant musician and absolute quality on some of The WHo tunes and sounds.
But tell me he can sing in tune? |
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eddiewilson
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Posted - 14/02/2010 : 15:32:25
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Just reading an article on Broadcast Engineering website regarding The Who's Superbowl performance and thought some people might find this interesting:
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One burning question often asked after events like the Super Bowl is, how live was that performance? The Who’s audio consultant, Bob Pridden, says, “There is an amazing amount of planning that goes into this. In fact, we were asked to record the medley live in the studio by Jan. 1, so they could plan the timing on the pyro and other production elements. I can assure you that every instrument and microphone on stage was live. But the producers have backing tracks in place from our rehearsals last week, because you can’t risk losing a vocal. So the answer is, The Who played their Super Bowl show 100 percent live.”
The full article is here: http://broadcastengineering.com/news/the-who-rcok-super-bowl-0212/ |
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